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Should Non-custodial Alienated PAS Parent 
be Required to pay Child Support?

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Post #   000006af
should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay child support
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 150.142.238.8

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is this considered abandonment? (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 000006b0
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 64.228.227.114

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Until the courts recognize PAS as a real issue and accept it as a form of "child abuse" as Dr. Gardner has suggested, I'm afraid that you are responsible for child support as long as you are the non-custodial parent. I'm not certain but it is possible in rare cases dependent upon the PAS awareness of the presiding judge. As I said. This is rare. Good Luck!   (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 000006b1
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: mtndad
Remote Name: 66.44.197.106

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Is this a test? Your question is sort of direct, with no background upon which to make a consideration. Maybe you're doing research, maybe you're a student hoping for an "A". In a nutshell, if child support is ordered by a court, then it should be paid, regardless of PAS, alienation, or any other circumstances. There are vehicles, the courts, for addressing this issue. The law is the law! Paying child support is not fun, and rarely easy. In most states, how the child support is spent not an issue. My former spouse can spend it on make-up, bubble-gum or her current squeeze if she so chooses. It's just money. If you want to put forth a really interesting question, try "Should I leave any inheritance to my alienated children? Should children pay for the sins of the alienating parent?"  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000006b3
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 209.202.131.89

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Kids still need to supported with support payments. Regardless whether you even have contact.  Alienation is not caused by the child, it's caused by adult. It may not seem fair, but by not lowering ourselves to the level of people who don't play fair, we are setting a good example, whether recognized or not. I haven't been able to parent my daughter for 4 years, I still love her as much today as I have ever before, even though she doesn't want to see myself. This is not her fault, sadly enough, I feel her mother is a person who needs help but doesn't see it that way. She is a very unhappy person by her own demise. I continue to work towards being a part of my daughters life, paying support because it's the right thing to do.    (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000006b4
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 198.81.26.103

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Of course you should! If the child is yours. In my case my ex mother-in-law, [name removed], has implied that I am not my son's father. In addition to being my son's father, I am also his dad and buddy, which really gets her goat! In most jurisdictions non support msy be considered abandonment. If PAS is present, then you must go to court to have some form of modification. A great source of information is www.krightsradio.com   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000006b5  
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 64.228.227.158

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I should have been more explicit in my response. The monetary support of your child is an absolute must. The differences with respect to allocation of funds could be changed. If the court recognizes PAS and finds the alienator in contempt, each parents share of support could be ordered to compensate the cost of rehabilitative therapy for the child and NOT "the new main squeeze". Even if your ex renounces her right to recieve support for the child this could open a pandora's box of problems for yourself. Don't go there.    (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

 

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Post #  000006b7
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 152.163.101.9

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I think the payment of support is while not linked to parenting time is the same. When you are denied all access I say the CP should in fact stand alone in supporting the child. They have removed illegally your right why in the hell would you pay?....the shortcomings of the child at that point are truly the responsibility of the CP...........if you get to see your child by all means you pay the support.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000006c2
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 150.142.238.102


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check the laws....if it can be proved.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000006e1
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 65.163.203.240

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My ex took off w/ my daughter to the other side of the country 10 yrs. ago. I haven't seen or heard from him since. I didn't even know about CS until almost 2 yrs. later. I've made some payments, but b/c he's skipping from state to state, I quit paying. If I haven't seen my daughter, and don't even know if she is alive, and he's not trying to collect the CS, how am I suppose to know what state to send it to??  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)  

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Post # 000006f0
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 150.142.232.220


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or you could be in for trouble
(Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post #  000006e6
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 150.142.238.127

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in nys...and it can be proved. i am willing and able to pay, however, if abandonment is involved; meaning the child abandoned her mother...than i have a case...  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 000007fb
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 24.236.77.176

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Depends on what state you are in. Some have Pro Se Offices (acting as your own attorney). Do you wish to terminate your parental rights?  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post #  00000746
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to pay ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 205.188.117.132

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I must say this is a subject I vehemently disagree with many on. My ex decided to keep me from my daughter with more lies and deceit than we have space here to write it. She signed off on support years ago to keep me away and the liar now comes back and says she did not and wants money. I say to a parent that alienates the other learn quickly how to support that child yourself without support and teach them how to understand that the alienator has caused their shortcomings in life. Typically the alienator wants to play the victim also. These people will in fact answer one day to a power higher than human. I hope all alienating parents burn in hell......as they have destroyed some of gods childrens minds.....to burn in hell for such parents is too easy....there should be worse waiting for them someday....only the good lord can subject them to what they deserve!!!!!!  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post #  00000748 
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 150.142.234.82

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thank you for your comments, the pain is too much, but what comes around goes around....i too believe the alienator will go to hell.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post #  00000aeb
Re: should non custodial alienated PAS parent be required to ...
From: [removed]
Remote Name: 152.163.101.10

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It's easy to get beat down, especially when the non-custodial has no real support from family. Alienation is committed by the custodial parent in so many small ways, even they probably arn't aware of them, but to come back years later and demand money is the height of dishonesty. The system is hopelessly corrupt. We have custody battles that rage for years. Not because of the children, but because of who's going to end up having to pay through the nose if they "lose" the children. It's disgusting, and I hate the whole system.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

 

 

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