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Do Moms--or Dads--Have it Worse in Divorce, Custody, 
Court Cases, Child Support, and PAS?

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Post # 0000055e
PAS in WISCONSIN
From: Milwaukee DAD
Remote Name: 152.131.8.194

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Hello Everyone; First off, I'm new to this group. It took a little time to read most to the postings. As fathers' we have two strikes against us right from the start: the first-- we our the bread winners most of the time for the family, secondly-- we are males. The court system is no different in most states, child support generates money! You ask what do I mean by this? To explain a complex system in its clear and concise terms I'll put it this way, for every dollar a court collects in child support, they in return receive a dollar from the federal government. WOW, that is why CPS is so hell bent on going on a witch hunt and your the witch! You ask how I know this information? Ask your judge, he'll tell you. Speaking of judges, we vote them into office, we can vote them out!!!!!! But the little thing we as fathers forget---- most of the time the voting for judges is done during the day----- hummmm, when your future ex can vote and you can't, because your at work supporting your family. My case is no different then most of the ones in this discussion group, except one thing-- the courts ordered my ex to live with her parents with my kids-- pretty sick!!! Dysfunctional person moving in a Dysfunctional support. Well, look forward in hearing from the group.     (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000578
Re: PAS in WISCONSIN
From: DS in Kenosha
Remote Name: 63.78.50.30

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I have been down the PAS road and quite frankly the courts could care a less about what happens. The Kenosha court took my kids away from me and allowed my ex and her mother to further alienate them from me. They live 5 miles away and I have not seen them in three years.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 00000594
Re: PAS in WISCONSIN
From: MK
Remote Name: 65.31.124.228

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Here is ones a different side of he story. This time from a mother. I moved, with my ex husbands consent with my daughter to Germany, where I am originally from. He even thought about moving there himself (since he was sooooo German). I wanted to make sure that my daughter would not loose contact with her father. He came to visit us, and I sent her to visit him. He kept her and I did not see her for over 6 months. I finally gave up and came back because I knew that I would never see my daughter again. There were so many factors involved; him letting her at age 10 driving him home because he was too drunk to drive himself. He told me since my return that she was his little girl. I fought for her for the last 2 years. Then I made the mistake of punishing her for something stupind and dangerous she did. That ended me up without a daughter. He told me that he is not going to force her to go where she does not want to go. I have not seen her in weeks and it breaks my heart. I had to force her for the last 2 years to visit her father because she supposedly hated him so much. I never believed her and never let her get her anger out. It was still her father. He is sitting there and laughing because she does not want anything to do with me anymore. Just like he told me while I was still in Germany after he kept her here. I guess he finally won.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  00000595
Re: PAS in WISCONSIN
From: snuz2luz
Remote Name: 64.12.116.197

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No, he didn't win only in his mind. Wait until your daughter grows up and realizes what he is. She will return to you who truly loves her. God will punish your ex if you allow it to happen. Don't try to control it on your own. I've finally learned that lesson and am at peace now.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000597
Re: PAS in WISCONSIN
From: 
Remote Name: 65.31.124.228

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But isn't that exactly what PAS stands for. If you leave it alone and don't do anything, the kid will just grow angrier against you and really does not want anything to do with you. Since I wrote I received a referral to mediation, was informed that a motion in court has been filed which will be served on me tonight. Since he has managed to pull the "wool" over everybody's eyes, I have no idea with what lies he won her over and received 5 affadavits to support his case. That is how many he has with his motion I was told by the clerk of courts. He clearly went against court orders when he let her live with him and did not the legal route. And he only took this step because he could not get me to agree to have the child support lowered. Her decision to move in with him came - according to her friends that still have contact with me - because he offered to lift all punishment if she moved in with him and right after I threw him off our property because he showed up drunk and started cussing out my husband. The next visitation with him she sprung the surprise that she wanted "to try to live with dad for 1 month". I guess I was too sure in our bond and now I am paying for it. She does not want to speak to me, she does not answer my emails. She is hanging around the "wrong" kids, smoking, she already got drunk once because "she wanted to try once how it is because dad is always drunk". Her grades in school are falling and my son's excuse is that she is a selfish teenager. I do believe that it has something to do with that, but more with him brainwashing her up to no end. My son even told me that in my ex's household, if he tells my daughter something, she yells at him "whatever dad, shut up". So he has absolutely no control whatsoever over her. She is running around town without parental supervision, which he always accused me of. She will be going down the drain if nobody is there to watch out for her. I just hope that the court will see it that way too. I know she will hate me if I force her to move back in with me but I don't think that the situation right now is healthy for her at all. I haven't stopped fighting but I am very close to the end of the rope. I have been fighting with my ex for the last 3 years, fighting for my daughter. And now this. He always told me that she was his little girl. 
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