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Post #  00000584
Re: Mom's are alienated also
From: someone who cares
Remote Name: 150.142.236.42

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I am an alienated mother of two daughters. It feels like death. we need support groups in place this is a horrible experience.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 0000000f
Alienated mother 
From: almom
Date: 4/26/00
Time: 8:05:52 PM
Remote Name: 62.0.163.233

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My ex-husband and I are in a terrible war over custody of our five children. Meanwhile the kids are by him most of the time and very much under his control. He has always and still alienates them viciously from me.
I would very much like to be in touch with someone in a similar situation. Please reply.

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Post # 00000019
Re: Alienated mother
From: Nancy
Date: 5/15/00
Time: 1:44:49 AM
Remote Name: 209.123.161.61

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I have been through almost similar circumstances, except that my ex was still living in the house alienating my daughter from me and undermining everything I tried to do with her. Fighting the battle is expensive but the first thing that I would recommend is that you engage in a forensic psychological evaluation of the family. If the evaluator is good, he/she will pick up on the fact that their father is alienating you from them. You should ask for this evaluation in court and go with whoever the judge recommends. During the evaluation, this will be your time to prove yourself and your case. Documentation is very important. Document everything that goes on. The dates and times you call to speak to the children, their response or in my case my ex told me that my daughter did not want to speak with me and hung up the phone. Get yourself a good therapist because this syndrome can drive you crazy. I often times felt like admitting myself to a rubber room and just letting them pump me full of drugs so I wouuldn't feel the pain. After the court appointed forensic psychologists makes his/her report, they usually will recommend some type of parenting time schedule. THE MOST IMPORTANT AND HARDEST THING TO DO IS NOT REACT TO THE CRAZINESS, UNDERSTAND WHERE THE CHILDREN ARE COMING FROM, DON'T REACT TO IT, AND BE CONSISTENT IN YOUR BEHAVIOR. My daughter thought, because her father told her so, that if I disciplined her it was child abuse. He even gave her a mobile phone to call the police or whoever whenever I would discipline her (even standing in the corner was in his eyes child abuse). I used my therapist to help me develop unique approaches to discipline that would not trigger this response of fear in my daughter. I took parenting courses and went by the book. My behavior (as far as discipline went) was then backed by several authorities. I also used my daughter's friends to point out that what I was doing was normal because my ex had my daughter convinced that everything I did was abussive and wrong, that I didn't love her and I was going to harm her. We tried the parenting time that the psychologist recommended, it didn't work. PATIENCE IS KEY. I had to wait for the attorneys, judges and all other professional involved to see what I knew to be true. It's a painfully slow process but you can't give up hope. Keep documenting the things the children say, changes in behavior you note. Understand that there is a transition period between the two household and kids need time to adjust, set up this time, make it clear to them that, say after one hour after returning home the routine will be such and such. Try to maintain as normal an environment as possible for them. Have faith. The children should probably also be in counseling to help them sort out the truth. Be careful in picking out a therapist for them. I was fortunate, my daughter's therapist was an expert in PAS and I didn't even know it. My daughter's therapist was contracted through DYFS (Division of Youth and Family Services - the state agency that protects children) therefore, her reports about my daughter are convidential and can only be obtained by the judge. My daughter's therapist poised herself as an advocate for the child and reported to the judge any findings and recommendations she felt necessary to protect my daughter. My case goes further than just alienation, my child was emotionally abused beyond your wildest dreams. So, this is long, let's recapp - you start with a court appointed forensice psychological evaluation of the family, get yourself a good therapist, get your children in therapy, and believe it or not you and your ex (husband) should go into therapy together to work out how to coparent for the sake of the children. In the joint therapy session you can raise the allegations of alienation and this therapist will also be instrumental in the custody battle, as they will see who is willing to work in the best interest of the child and which parent, if any, has a hidden agenda. Hopefully, all the pieces will fall into place. It may not be what you want exactly, but it hopefully will be for the best interest of the children. The children need two healthy parents and if through all this therapy it is determined that one parent is not healthy then custody will go to the healthier parent and visitation with the other may be only in a therapeutic environment. At present my daughter is not allowed to see her father because of his own behavior - I didn't have to do anything except report the behaviors to everyone and try like hell not to react to them. My daughter is currently living with me, it's not easy but then no one said life would be. At some time in the future she may start seeing her father again in a therapy session - she hasn't seen him in 6 months. It all depends upon how her father behaves - I don't have to do anything but report changes in behavior and how things are going. My ex did all this for himself - I did not go after him, I didn't try to make up allegations - I just reported the bizzare behaviors exhibited by my daughter and any bizzare behavior my ex did directly to her or myself. Hope this helps. Wish you lots of luck. Gather the troops for support - it's not any easy one but it can be beat.

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Post # 0000001d
Re: Alienated mother
From: paula
Date: 5/30/00
Time: 12:19:08 AM
Remote Name: 63.10.134.147

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I am in a similar situation with my 16 year old daughter. My x finally, after 15.5 years, succeeded in alienating her from me. I have not seen her since October. She refuses to see me and ofcourse he is doing nothing to faciliate the visits. I send cards, gifts, call, etc. but she treats me like the scum of the earth. Recently, my x. filed a motion to have my visitation terminated stating that I have abandoned my daughter. I am about to give up. It's been a very painful and lonely time. I miss her so much. It's like a death that can't heal.
Write back to me. I would like to hear more about your situation.

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Post # 0000001f
Re: Alienated mother
From: Bridget
Date: 6/5/00
Time: 9:54:58 PM
Remote Name: 208.180.23.196

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I hardly know what to write. My husband is an MD and has spent almost $500K on his lawyers. I do not have the funds to counter this. We have two children. My son is 16 and lives with his dad. My daughter is 14 and lives with me. My daughter has as much contact with her dad as they both want (I never limit visitation or hold to only the court orederd visitation). I do not get to see my son. He tells me when I try to see him that he doesn't want to see me. In Feb my son made a suicide attempt. I got no help from the psychiatrist or therapist, until after I spoke to an RN. The MD never spoke to me or responded to my calls. Once the RN helped me make contact with my son the therapist had sessions with me and my son. I asked that we develop strategies for when he came home and he would not be allowed to see me - they (my son and therapist) told me it would not be necessary. Oh how wrong!! I stated that I was going to have my court mandated visitation and three days later I was served with a Citation stating that I was not allowed to see my son or be with in 200 feet of him. Unlike most of you I am giving up. I intend to move 1000+ miles from here as soon as possible. I wish you all the best of luck - I wish I could say I have what you have to keep on going.

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Post # 0000003b
Re: Alienated mother
From: ELAINE SASSOWER-BERLIN
Date: 9/8/00
Time: 5:02:46 PM
Remote Name: 205.188.197.26

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I AM A MOTHER IN THE SAME PLIGHT AS YOURSELF. I HAVE NOT SEEN MY CHILDREN FOR THREE YEARS MY EX HUSBAND WAS GIVEN FULL CUSTODY WITH NO VISITATION TO ME.

I AM ALSO A DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER - IN PRE-PRODUCTION OF 'ARE YOU ALLOWED TO READ ME A STORY YET' - WHICH WILL FOCUS ON PARENTS WHO HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO PARENT THEIR CHILDREN AS A RESULT OF A CUSTODY DISPUTE. IF YOU ARE WILLING TO VOLUNTEER TO BE PART OF THIS FILM PLEASE CONTACT ME AT NYLainy@aol.com  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 00000051
Re: Alienated mother
From: a completely alienated mom
Date: 9/30/00
Time: 4:50:32 PM
Remote Name: 12.33.67.4

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I was not so fortunate. 3 years ago my ex & I were divorced. I am now an evil, wicked person. After 3 long years of court battles and no visitation I have finally managed to get a new judge who ordered counseling and supervised visitation (I petetioned the court for supervised visitation because I wasn't seeing them at all. They wouldn't come with me)I must admit this is the hardest thing I have ever had to do. For the last 4 weeks I have gone to these sessions & have been called a liar, an evil person, a witch, I have been told by my children that they hate me and I should just leave them alone. The list is endless. I am starting to think that I should just forget about it. It's quite obvious that they don't want me in their lives. They are only 12 and 13 and they have so much hatred. They are vicious in their outbursts and remind me exactly of their dad. That is the reason we were divorced. I couldn't bear the cruelty anymore. It breaks my heart when I remember the relationship I used to have with them. What can I do to help these sessions go smoother? Any advise would be greatly appreciated. Tina   (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 000004a0
Re: Alienated mother
From: janjonmead@aol.com
Remote Name: 152.163.253.98

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If you are still out there, please contact me. I have five children three with me, two with the ex and I feel my situation is very similar to yours.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006 )

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Post # 000005a5
Re Alienated mother
From: alienated mother too
Remote Name: 150.142.238.92

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i truly believe that the parent who ruled the marriage will be the parent who alienates.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000036
Re: Alienated mother
From: Kimberly
Date: 8/30/00
Time: 10:11:20 PM
Remote Name: 152.163.206.203

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This all sounds too familiar. Except that my ex-husbands mother is the problem. My ex travels alot and his mother takes care of my two girls ages 9 & 10. We have shared custody but the girls refuse to see me more than 2 hours a week. This has gone on for a very long time. I never say anything to the girls about it for fear of confusing them more. They will not stay with me overnight. I have been looking for a support group but all that I seem to find is for fathers. I am sick about this. At one point, I was hospitalized with seizures because of stress. I moved across the state of Florida just to get away from the madness. I still drive 150 miles every week to see them for 2 hours. I speak to them every night even though what they usually have to say is not pleasant. I refuse to give up. I have no means to hire expensive lawyers or psychotherapists. He does. Can we fight this? What do I do? I miss my girls and want to do what is best for them. I do not want them to go to foster care until someone decides where they should go. I do not want to have to take the police there to pick them up. This would scare them alot. What do I do first? Their grandmother is the one who is doing this and their father refuses to see rather admit it. Someone please help.  Thanks.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000083
Re: Alienated mother
From: Another Alienated mother
Date: 2/15/01
Time: 7:38:16 PM
Remote Name: 216.169.70.247

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I know this was written almost a year ago, but I am also a mother who is being alienated from her children by their father. Most of what you read indicates it is the mothers who alienate. I think there is a large number of mothers who are being alienated from their chidren by the fathers and the stepmothers. In my case, the stepmother has escalated the alienation and my daughter is starting to refuse visitation with me. It is the most emotionally wrenching experience I have ever undergone. My daughter is slowly becoming a stranger to me....withdrawn, noncommunicative, and depressed. She acts like she resents so much being with me....I just don't understand how this happened.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000084
Re: Alienated mother
From: mdo
Date: 2/16/01
Time: 10:20:35 AM
Remote Name: 63.14.159.225

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Just two weeks ago, I came across info on the web (by accident) that explained PA/PAS. I have been living this nightmare for years now not even knowing about PA/PAS. I am a long distant mom who wants her children with her (10 and 7 yr old daughters) but not willing to put them in worst position than they already are. I was at the point that I was giving up my custody and legal rights so my children would not be tormented by their confusion. Their father hates me and the Lord only knows what he says to them, but when my girls are with me, they love me, have fun etc. but when they return to dad, they get confused because they are not allowed to have positive feelings about me so then they get tormented. How many times have they not answered the phone or were angry with me because of their father. It is so sad. I get so angry at their father for doing this to innocent children. I have no faith in the court system. I just have recently been slapped with child support and now have no choice but to respond to the courts. I have no "visitation" since summer of 99 when I "lost it" and sent my kids home early due to their disrespectful behavior to me. I truly lost it and said things out of sheer pain and hurt and mostly anger at their father. I know I have no one to blame for that one, that was my own fault, and now I don't know if I will ever get my kids to "visit" me again. Life sucks. I believe in God, but I am struggling with faith right now. I have a meeting with my oldest daughters therapist in 5 days and I am terrified. I don't know what my daughter has been saying to this woman, all I do know is that my daughter has learned to bold face lie to anyone and it kills me to see her do it. Please think of me and pray for me. I need all the strength I can get.  Thanks for listening.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000086
Re: Alienated mother
From: mom in tn
Date: 2/21/01
Time: 11:54:31 PM
Remote Name: 64.12.105.26

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i am in a similar situation with my ex and my son who will be 5 in june of this year...it is devestating, trust me i know...and people treat you like you are horrible when they don't know your situation (all they know is your kids dont live with you...) but believe me there is hope...i have been fighting my fight for almost 2 years with the help of my family, my new husband, and my daughter who will be 1 next month...email me back if you want to talk sometime online or exchange emails...  someone who understand the heartache...  ds  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 0000003c
Re: Alienated mother/I gave up too
From: ELAINE SASSOWER-BERLIN
Date: 9/8/00
Time: 5:09:03 PM
Remote Name: 205.188.197.26

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I AM A MOTHER IN THE SAME SITUATION AS YOU AFTER YEARS OF DOMESTIC VIOLENCE (WHICH OF COURSE I DID NOT REPORT) - MY HUSBAND ALIENATED OUR THREE CHILDREN FROM ME - I HAVE NOT SEEN THEM IN THREE YEARS. HE WAS GIVEN FULL CUSTODY WITH NO VISITATION AT ALL TO ME.
I AM HOWEVER, ALSO A DOCUMENTARY FILMMAKER - AND AM IN PRE-PRODUCTION OF 'ARE YOU ALLOWED TO READ ME A STORY YET' WHICH WILL FOCUS ON PARENTS WHO HAVE LOST THE RIGHT TO PARENT THEIR CHILDREN AS A RESULT OF A CUSTODY DISPUTE. I BELIEVE THIS IS AN IMPORTANT FILM FOR WITHOUT OUR VOICES AS A WHOLE BRINGING THIS ALL TO IMPORTANT SUBJECT TO PUBLIC ATTENTION - OUR PLIGHT MAY BE FOREVER.
IF YOU ARE WILLING TO PARTICIPATE IN THIS FILM PLEASE CONTACT ME AT NYLainy@aol.com

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Post #  0000052e
Re: Alienated mother/I gave up too
From: H3SULLIVAN.yahoo.com
Remote Name: 216.162.22.1

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Well I haven't lost my son, however, when he spends visitation time with his father he is not allowed to have anything to do with me. For instance, my son wanted to get into cubscouts and the first few months my ex-husband took him to a few den meetings. Then it became periodically, now he was told his father won't take him at all. Unfortunatly my son spends everyother weekend with his father and this particular visitation starts on a thursday, which, thursday's are when my son's den meetings are held. This is not the only thing that is going on, there's a whole lot more. I continue to keep a journal of everything that goes on, such as times my ex-husband picks up my son and drops him off as well as phone calls. There were times when I felt like giving up, because I felt like I was getting no where fast. The last time I was in court, the lawyer I had looked at my notes and suggested I arrange counseling for my son so as to have the counseler appear in court. This is where I am at now, still battling and waiting to win the war, as my lawyer said. I just never realized how long of a battle I was in for.   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000026
Re: Alienated mother/I gave up too
From: merissa
Date: 7/7/00
Time: 11:55:49 PM
Remote Name: 205.188.197.168

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My daughter was medically neglected, verbally abused, psychologically battered, and brainwashed. I exhausted my resources, legal and emotional, I couldn't take it anymore and I gave up. I haven't seen my 10 year old daughter in 2 years & 8 months. I don't deal with my ex-husband's emotional abuse anymore. My 7 year old daughter and I miss her daily. (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post #  000005cb
mother of 2 daughters alienated by father in ny state
From: grab an orr lets row together
Remote Name: 150.142.233.49

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i read your reply,,,im with u, only my ex shopped therapists and the judge allowed this...even though it was court ordered and the therapist was COURT ORDERED.... i feel like i have lost my daughters,,,like death...its horrible.
(Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000585
Mother of 2 daughters alienated by father in ny state
From: someone who REALLY cares
Remote Name: 150.142.236.42

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im discusted, i had primary physical until daughter wanted to go live with her father, what a nightmare. i have not seen her since, have court order for therapy with her but she won't speak to me. father had petetion brought against him by law guardian and judge did nothing, im discusted with the court process. thats abuse   (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 00000056
Re: Alienated mother/I gave up too
From: clementine833608@aol.com
Date: 10/4/00
Time: 1:49:58 AM
Remote Name: 152.163.201.198

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Participate! Of course. I have a story you will not believe. Mary [last names removed], the PAS writer, did my evaluation . . . it is an entire-re-creation of the case history of the case. I made no allegation against the father . . and yet Mary [last names removed] misrepresented me as having made all kinds. Mary [last names removed] accepted a "tele-report" from opposing counsel without even checking it. They did not know, even though I wrote a letter of explanation, that my one phone call to DCS was a phone call on myself . . . yes, believe this . . .I called on myself because the evaluator (Mary [last names removed]) accepted the same fabricated evidence of the father's ex parte child abuse claim against me to which he nor opposing counsel ever contacted DCS.

Mary [last names removed] accepted the same fabricated evidence from the father's ex parte child abuse charge made against me in court . . . the father's exparte petition was heard at one hearing and then continued for a second hearing . . . prior to the second hearing it got taken off calendar by his counsel because the fabrication of evidence was discovered.

Mary [last names removed] does not even mention the father's ex parte child abuse claim against me, nor does she mention the fabricated evidence within the claim . . and she was told about both . . and received a letter from my then counsel saying he witnessed the fabrication in opposing counsel's office (my counsel got nervous after the father's counsel submitted the same fabricated evidence to the evaluator, Mary [last names removed].) For the record, my own counsel advised me to move out of state with the children during the evaluation. What do you think about that? Do you think, possibly, my counsel, who never told me to get into counseling, might not have been representing me after all?

As to the evaluator, we are talking about the same Mary [last names removed] who is the PAS writer. Made a huge error, and the worst is the equivocation between two pieces of evidence and wherein she presents the father's brainwashing of the children as my supposed psychological abuse of them. The academic community is stunned. (No. Have not shown them the report. But did tell them the general argument. And I am known as a person of integrity.)

Mary [last names removed] announced to court that the court order "temporary" removal of the children from me and without a hearing . . . and the court did so. It turns out Mary [last names removed] is a court advisor . . and on the court panel. Recommendations are supposed to be reviewed on their own merit . . . not due to some pre-supposed influence of an evaluator. This whole things smells of a major ruse. They did this to me, and that was their mistake.

I was named a Scholar in my home state, valedictorian of my class, and worked for universities throughout my career . . .I probably have read more dissertations than Mary [last names removed] has had custody litigants. And I know a manipulated argument when I see one. By the way, Gardner's is not an argument, it is a piece of political propaganda.

I give of my time to those in need: I've tutored for free those who could not pay for my services, I've diapered the dying elderly, and I have worked non-stop for those in hospitals who had no-one else to care about them. My parenting of the children is excellent, and the oldest, age five, did remarkably well, and the divorce started the very same week of her first school week. And my relationship with the children was absolutely not alienating. And the very evaluation wherein the child's statements are presented, prove it was not alienating of the father.

I figured out Mary [last names removed]'s entire arguement . . there is none. And by way, I disproved PAS theory. I saw the mistakes before the paper announced the conclusion to which the mistakes necessarily led.

My child's unwillingness to go to the evaluator (a just introduced stranger) was labeled "not typical" behavior of children that age. Then the child's responses to the questions of "does anybody miss you when you are gone?" and "who misses you more" and "who is sadder" is manipulated to seemingly mean "I miss my mommy more because she is sadder." The lack of consistently applied reflection of self-perception syndrome is incredible. The child's meaning "I am very sad when I miss my mommy" is manipulated to be "I miss my mommy more because she is sad." As such, the "not typical" behavior of the previous announcement is then given the add-ons of "wary" and "vigilant" so to present the child was protecting the mother emotionally, instead of the child seeking emotional protection from the mother. Most of nature, with few exceptions, shows that the young offspring prefers one parent over the other, and usually that parent from whose body the offspring resided in during the "incubation" period. Not only that, human psychology would announce that the child misses the mother when the mother is gone. Does not mean that the child would not want to be necessarily ever without mom, in fact, the child might prefer just dad at the park. Maybe he plays soccer better. The point is, Mary [last names removed] manipulated an entire arguement, and did so using applied meaning outside of child psychology.

Her announcements [sic=pronouncements] was an announcement that Mary [last names removed] was operating outside the field of child psychology.

Any parent, mom or dad, who has had a negative evaluation, let me know. Hopefully, you got a copy. I know it's confidential. I am not asking you to do something you are not supposed to do. Any attorney who thinks they have got an unfair evaluation, call me. I can see through these arguments like an owl sees at night. If you currently have an evaluation, call me up. If you had a past one, and you think that they did something wrong, let me know. I can help you. To anybody who had a "past issue" presented such that the issue was made as though it was necessarily indicative of "disturbance" today via the "tangential" and "out of structure" adjectives used a favored terms by unethical evaluators, call me up. I can help you. Whatever you have, look at the argument. If you don't know, or can't remember, write me as much as you can about it. Yes, the report itself is confidential. But you can tell persons about what the general argument is. I can help you.
I will help anybody. I don't discriminate between gender or color or race or creed. Nor orientation, despite what Mary [last names removed] said about me. I made issue about my ex and his significant other only with regard to the children's statements that they were seemingly displaying such in front of the children. Mary [last names removed] announced I wanted orientation "investigated." Nope. Didn't say that. And never would say that. The irony is that Mary [last names removed]'s own report shows why the children had so consistenly seen the couple dressing and in bed. . . no doors exist for any of the bedrooms in the house. And no barrier, not even a blankey, either.  [Last names removed] couldn't see the cause in her own report, and announced my concerns over my two young children's sense of innocence and the importance of modesty as being "reflection of self-perception" issue she said I had with sex. Sorry to disappoint you, [last names removed]. I don't have issues with orientation; modesty in front of children, you bet. [last names removed] did an outstandingly lousy job . . . and the positive about it is that the total wreck of a job that was done directly indicates [last names removed]'s severe prejudice.

You got something negative, let me know, and most especially if it is from a panel psychologist and definately if it is PAS application within the evaluation, or some "disturbance" they predicate of you in the present because of some long-ago past issue. There should be no PAS application at all, nor any applied reason to any individual observation, nor an assumed "disturbance" in the present based on long ago. Why? Contrary to scientific method . . . big word . . . basically means, if you say someone opened the door to steal your purse, then when your purse is stolen next week, you will necessarily say that that person stole it. In other words, your pre-determination of their intention pre-supposes the conclusion without any evidence and without even your checking with the person as to what was their reason for opening the door. PAS application, or any application as the determined cause to individual observation (data) pre-concludes the reason as the conclusion. That is totally against due process, and serious, outside of scientific inquiry and the basic understood of the process of determination.
By the way, does anybody know were Mary [last names removed], MD., PHD. She was born in [date removed] . . . that means she is 48. Where is she? She is supposed to be a psychiatrist, with an MD and Ph.D. That is, she is a doctor. I can't find her. Do you know?

This whole things has been a ruse . . . and it is a ruse that has likelly been done to several women . . . and perhaps men . . . or anybody that the evaluator would want to discriminate against. . . . we are talking about PAS conveniently applied to psychological evaluations, outside of the fact that APA and AMA do not recognize it, and that the application of it to individual data pre-supposes its existence and presupposes it exists within the certain case study.

Men seemingly don't care about the PAS being "non-scienfic" because it is the means by way they can dismiss the primary caretaker of the children . . . that's why they have so enthusiastically taken up a theory that is at best political propaganda. The internet as a propaganda machine is being used such that the American Bar Association and the LA Bar Association are represented as awarding students who wrote essays about the Gardner theory as "winning" the essay contest. I doubt that. The fact that neither student brought up the necessary logical redundancies within Gardner's study, and that AMA and APA do not acknowledge the syndrome, and that the students don't mention the other major issues, tells me that the internet is being used as a means of political ploy to funnel political propaganda. Stick something on the internet, announce it as being recognized by some group, regardless of whether it is or not, and there you have it: no-one thinks to question. Well, I'll question. And I'll question every day of the week.

I'm still waiting for grand old California Psychological Board to give me explanation of how Mary L. [last name removed] ends up being Mary [last name removed] when [she] supposedly used "[last name removed]" during her rice/ucla terms (if it is the same person). And I am wondering why California Psychological Board has been allowing psychologists to change their name without notice to the public . . . change your name, move to state, move back, and nobody knowns that you lost your licence prior to your initial move. You have been reborn . . . and California Psychological Board doesn't even bother to tell the citizens who could be harmed, of such a second identity. The Board is supposed to be protecting the citizen body from such persons, and should announce that the person has had a licensing issue.
Count me in for that movie. Count me in!!! And by the way, I am definately a worker, love my kids, love parents who love their kids, and I am a good mom. So count me in.  (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

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Post # 000005cd
Re: Mother of 2 daughters alienated by father in ny state
From: anitadb1972@yahoo.com
Remote Name: 162.40.96.80

Comments
If you are looking for support from other noncustodial moms, here is a safe careing place to go where you won't be judged. www.noncustodialmoms.com I hope to see you there!    (Last changed: February 26, 2006)

 

 

 

 

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